1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,460 This is Walter Schrode, your roving reporter at KSRC Radio in Socorro, New Mexico. 2 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:13,080 We have with us this afternoon Mr. Lonnie Zamorro, the Socorro patrolman left while 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,800 chasing a car, found himself in an area about two miles west of Socorro and one mile east 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,080 of KSRC radio station at which time he reports he came upon an unidentified object resting 5 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:26,080 on four legs. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:32,320 As he drew closer, the object took off with a loud roar, starting blue, red flame, and 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,000 disappeared in the sky. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,720 A great number of cars and Socorro people have gathered here in front of the studios 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,440 of KSRC to catch a glimpse of Mr. Zamorro as he arrived and welcome him with their car 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,440 horns. 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Mr. Zamorro, after coming upon this object, just what did happen? 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:54,880 I went up that little road for about half a mile, I guess. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:01,920 I came up to this little barking deer there on the side of the road and I saw a glance 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:10,720 out the window, looked to my left, it seemed this white object on the ground. 15 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,760 So I thought it might be a car that had turned over. 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,520 So I was in the real big carry going out there to investigate, thought maybe somebody would 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,520 be hurt. 18 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:30,000 That time I saw this white ink-shaped, ink-shaped looking object. 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 It looked something like an egg, you mean? 20 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Yeah, from the distance I was, it looked like an egg to me, about the size of a car, I think, 21 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,760 someone said. 22 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,760 I thought it looked like a car that turned over, I'll say it's a size of a car. 23 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 And did any kind of markings out of any kind that you noticed? 24 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Yes, it did. 25 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Not from that far, I didn't see the markings. 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,760 When I went up closer to it, I did see the markings. 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:03,760 And someone said that the markings that you saw, it was an upside down V with three lines 28 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,760 running through it. 29 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,760 I couldn't tell you this, because they feel the one you see doesn't mark it. 30 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 They don't want you to say anything about the markings. 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,760 Or if we want to question you on that, and if we run into an area that they don't want 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,760 you to talk about, well you just say so. 33 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 And this happened about 5.30, 9.00 the afternoon. 34 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,760 It happened about 5.50, about 10 minutes to 6.00. 35 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:33,760 And you just placed a call in to Sergeant Tavis, the chief of the police, and he said, 36 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Sergeant Tavis of the state police, come on out and help you with the investigation. 37 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,760 As soon as I saw his object, I didn't know what it was. 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,760 I placed a call to Arden Shower as the new state police, told him he would come up there 39 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,760 and help me on this. 40 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,760 He said, yes, I'll be right there in about a few minutes. 41 00:02:53,760 --> 00:03:00,760 And he arrived just about two or three minutes after the object had taken off and left. 42 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Well, the object was still about a couple of months up there when he arrived. 43 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,760 It was still in that direction it went. 44 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,760 It went out over the top of the mountain. 45 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,760 And we've heard several reports that it flew low, like it was dragging something. 46 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,760 And we've heard some, it was very low to the ground. 47 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,760 At the time I was seeing it, it was very low to the ground, up to the Burlite meal there. 48 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,760 And then he started to gain altitude. 49 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:36,760 Now I also reported to me that when you first drove up into this area and decided this object, 50 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,760 that the motors were running and never going, 51 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,760 there was some such sound as that. 52 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Is that correct? 53 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Oh, cool. 54 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,760 I started running a little scared. 55 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,760 Well, I don't blame you. 56 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Thoughts on it even scared me yet. 57 00:03:54,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Now you did say that you saw two what appeared to be people dressed in white uniforms. 58 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Did they have helmets on like space men or anything? 59 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,760 No sir, I would say there are people I just saw some white colorals. 60 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 It looked like there was something in white colorals. 61 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Right. 62 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,760 But you couldn't identify them as actually being a human being and you and I are. 63 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,760 No sir. 64 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:26,760 And you didn't know where they turned and saw you or what then? 65 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Well, to my, I would say that this white object turned and saw me. 66 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Were they two of them? 67 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,760 I would say were two because one was from France and the other was from the back. 68 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:49,760 If you had a chance to notice what kind of a doorway they had to this, this ugly, this flying object, 69 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,760 you'd notice it was over snow. 70 00:04:51,760 --> 00:05:00,760 And when it took off, it made a loud, loud roaring sound. 71 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Is that correct? 72 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,760 Very loud, noisy roar sound. 73 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,760 And then after it got up in the air about 20 feet while the sound seemed to disappear, 74 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 the sound was, it disappeared and it was very, very quiet. 75 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 You could hear a field drop there. 76 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,760 And now these markings is left on the ground. 77 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Now the reports that I have had and I haven't had a chance to go and take a look in the winds yet 78 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:31,760 to be a probably, a lot of that anyway, was that they were deep indentations in the ground 79 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:38,760 approximately 10 inches wide and six to eight inches deep, about 15 feet apart. 80 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Is that a correct report? 81 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Well, I would say it was about 19 feet apart of the print. 82 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:54,760 And were there any other prints, like footprints around the area right after the takeoff 83 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 or at the end when you were making the investigation? 84 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:02,760 There were some prints, but I wouldn't even know if there were footprint or if they were just prints. 85 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,760 You couldn't identify them as actually being a footprint. 86 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Just indentations like maybe somebody might have walked there or somebody might have walked there. 87 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Somebody walked around there because it was, when I got there, it was nobody around there yet. 88 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Now there was, according to a report on one of the news, the television stations in Albuquerque 89 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:31,760 claimed that they had a call just about 5.30 in Albuquerque of a sighting about flying objects 90 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,760 flying in this direction. Did you hear anything about that? 91 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Little photos of which, if that be true, it means that someone in Albuquerque 92 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,760 saw this object flying in this direction just prior to your sighting it. 93 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,760 And which collaborates with the fact that there was something here. 94 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Now it's the feeling, I get the feeling at least Lonnie, as the people I've talked to 95 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,760 and they're out in the area that they are quite sure that something landed there 96 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,760 and something took off from this spot because of not only the imprint that is left in the ground 97 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:10,760 but the fire that it started and the method of which the fire or the power that it was 98 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,760 whatever it was using kind of spread itself as it took off. Is that right? 99 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Right. No, there was something out there because I feel it. 100 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:27,760 And what was your immediate reaction as soon as you realized that this thing might be an object from outer space? 101 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Well, I didn't think it would be an object from outer space because I don't believe in things like this from outer space. 102 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Well, it was something that you'd never seen before and it was enough to scare you down to run in the other direction. 103 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Well, what scared me was the loud noise and the flame that it had under it. 104 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,760 It had a large flame then as it took off. 105 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,760 It was a yellow flame or a blueish-orange flame. 106 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,760 I thought this object would blow off. This one started running back. 107 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:10,760 And did you notice whether these arms that it was sitting on retracted back into the object as it flew away or not? 108 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,760 You didn't have time. 109 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,760 I just ran in the other drag rod at that time. I would have been too. 110 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Are there any other things about this trying that you think our listening audience might be interested in or something that you'd be allowed to tell us? 111 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 No, there's a lot of thought. 112 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,760 And it disappeared. 113 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,760 It entered a high sky after it got over around the pearl. 114 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,760 It was a little low too, to a far lie of mine. 115 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Then from there on, it just told fast that you could barely hear it. 116 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Right in the great up in the air. 117 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:53,760 There have to be things that do what you were looking at to see what it was doing. 118 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Well, do you think we're going to get any more of them around here? 119 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,760 I hope not immediately. 120 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:07,760 That was quite an interesting experience, I'm sure, and it has caused an awful lot of comment. 121 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Did the investigators that were called in make any comments at all? 122 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:21,760 In one direction or the other, with the exception of that they do not have any such object in this area? 123 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Oh, there are still puzzled themselves here. 124 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:33,760 In the last report on the sampling, they took of the area around there from the burning brush and the area that the blast hits the ground. 125 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,760 They might give them a clue as to what kind of power was being used on this. 126 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,760 No, no, no. 127 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Well, I think I just about covered it here. 128 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Let's see, it wasn't dragging anything. 129 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,760 We had a report that it was dragging something. 130 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,760 It was laying on the ground. 131 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:04,760 You can't think of anything else about deciding how this flying object that our visiting audience might be interested in. 132 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,760 What do you want to say now? 133 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Well, Lonnie, I'm sure you've been getting an awful lot of questions and a lot of inquiry. 134 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,760 I imagine you're getting a little tired of it actually for so many people calling and asking you about it. 135 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Maybe this will be one way to keep too many people from him. 136 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,760 You have to go through the story over and over again. 137 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Well, it's been a real pleasure talking to you, Mr. Lonnie Zemmour. 138 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,760 This is the gentleman, the support patrolman that Friday at around 10 minutes to 6, 139 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:40,760 come up on an object, a flying object, an unidentified flying object as the government prepares to call him. 140 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Excuse me, Walter, I've got some military people that serve on the one top to me now. 141 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 We'll be there from the UFO. 142 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,760 What you have is the military people that are here from the UFO to talk to you right now 143 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,760 and to ask you some more questions about this. 144 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,760 And they have not in any way tried to indicate that they didn't want us to cover this type of an issue. 145 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,760 No, sir, I just don't know. 146 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,760 I'm going to come here and talk to you and the regular state is just alright. 147 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,760 That's fine. 148 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,760 And we would be interested in knowing what they think about it, if they will allow it. 149 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,760 And after you get through talking to them, if you would call us back here at the SRC 150 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,760 and to give us some of the information that they might allow you to let us broadcast, 151 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,760 we'd be glad to. 152 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Alright. 153 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,760 And, Mr. Zemmour, I hope that you don't come upon any more of these objects. 154 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 155 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 And as we find out exactly what they are. 156 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 So it's been a pleasure, Mr. Zemmour, having you in our studios. 157 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,760 And we want to thank you. 158 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,760 And I know our listeners thank you. 159 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,760 And this is expressed by the great number of cars that are out here in front of our studio 160 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,760 just to get a glimpse of what we might call a record celebrity right at the moment. 161 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Thank you very much, Mr. Zemmour. 162 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,760 It's been very nice meeting you at the SRC studio. 163 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,760 You're just been listening to a CSI-based video special featuring an interview with Mr. Zemmour. 164 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,760 The performance here in the studio has finally a hundred and a five. 165 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,760 I think that's a good one. 166 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Go go go.